Episode 11: After Show

Join us as we discuss the aftermath of our longest episode yet..... Casey Anthony!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:20

All right. Hello, Deadly, Divas. And dudes. This is the Casey Anthony after show, and there's just a lot.

unknown 0:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

She's so awful. I just don't understand why she still wants to do interviews and stuff now. Like, you're still the most hated woman in America. No one's ever going to believe you. You just make yourself look worse. They say at the beginning of the new one, why did you agree to do another one where you have no creative control? So she knew that she wasn't going to come out smelling the roses. Right. But she's just the arrogance.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

Yeah, I think she wanted to throw her story out there and see if she could garner utterly any support whatsoever. Um, and then it launched, and of course, nobody supported her. What a shock. I mean, you and I aren't shocked, but she probably was because she's probably like, oh, I'm so grateful. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

Why does nobody believe me? Because you're lying fucking bad. Yeah. Oh man. And doing her and Sherry Papini back to back, I was I was like, is this a disease compulsive like?

SPEAKER_01 1:24

It definitely is a disease. And that's one of the things, one of the glaring issues in the Peacock documentary for me is she has like these experts come out and say, Oh, she's totally normal. She has no psychological issues. But then in the next scene, they're like, oh, she was sexually abused and she's traumatized and she has a lot of issues. Which is it? It can't be both.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Yeah. I mean, maybe at some point she was sexually abused by someone, but there are so many things that contradict that to me. In my brain, I'm like, so you didn't remember this until you were in jail with other people that were sexually abused, and you chose to live there with your young daughter in the same house as your abuser. I it just doesn't so much of this story doesn't add up. Crazy craziness.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

No, she's I mean, she's a liar. And then she goes, Oh, why doesn't anybody believe me? Gee, I I wonder. Because you lie about nonsense. And even her family and friends say, like, sh from a young age, like from young childhood, she just lied constantly. So obviously something is wrong there that you are lying constantly.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

Well, and her excuse for that was she was taught to lie. And I and George and Cindy do seem a little a little strange.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

I agree. The whole di the family dynamic is is strange and they seem very obsessed with like outward appearance.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Have you ever seen the brother interviewed? No. I haven't either, but I'd be really curious if he's just like them. Right.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

Well, the fact that he estranged himself kind of makes me think maybe not.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Oh dude, I would estrange myself from that bullshit too. I'd be like, I wasn't there washing my hands. I don't know. I don't I don't know who to side with. I wasn't there, I didn't say anything. Leave me a lot. And he's managed to pretty much stay out of the spotlight.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

That to me, and I've I'm biased. Yeah, I'm biased probably, but like I estranged myself from pretty much my whole family, minus my nieces, because they're a toxic group of people. So like to me, that says, well, obviously they have issues, and obviously he didn't want to be a part of it. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

So maybe he's not like that. Maybe he's separating himself from the toxicity.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

And we could be wrong. Maybe he's a psychopath. We don't know. This is just speculation. Maybe he did it. Right, right. No, we don't think he there's no.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

He wasn't there. No. But as we don't know what really happened. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

I mean It was George or Casey or well, it was Casey. It was Casey. And George is George is weird. George has too much Botox. He does. Like, what's with that? Like your face hasn't moved in 20 years. And it's like he just doesn't seem like the type. But like apparently he is. And I guess that's another one of those appearance things where they are keeping up appearances.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Yeah. I can't imagine him as a cop either. I can't either. No. I do see Cindy as a nurse because she seems to have that.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

She seems very neurotic, and I'm not hating on her for that because I'm so neurotic. But like not in that not in that way. No. Like, if one of my kids killed my grandkid, I'm not helping cover it up. I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Exactly. Actually, my husband said that to me when we were watching it. He said, would you would you cover it up or would you help your child cover it up? And I said, I said it really depends on the circumstances because I I don't think I would be able to. I don't think I'd be able to live with myself. But it depends on whether there was an accident or just there's you can't answer that question. There's so many.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

I can answer that question. My answer is no. Um, A, because it's wrong morally, ethically, wrong. Can't do it. But B, then you live the rest of your life with this secret. C, when something comes out, because something almost always does, then it's 10 times worse on everybody.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

So do you think something will come out with this? I hope. I don't think it will. I don't know. Maybe. I mean, usually, usually the truth surfaces, I agree with that. Um, but I don't think in this story it's going to.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

There could always be somebody that comes out in a decade, like that for whatever reason. I mean, you know, bro, somebody like Casey can piss somebody off, like very easily.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Right, but you had like Crystal Holloway. She comes out later and says, Well, he told me this, but didn't change anything.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

And that was so weird. Like, why do we think that she testified? It was for her 15 minutes of fame, right? Like, what obviously that was nonsense.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Because Catherine Brown. Right. She went to go help search for a little two-year-old, ends up hooking up with the grandfather who's married. I mean, her credibility is pretty shit. It's shot, yeah. Yeah. That's true. So we don't like her anymore. Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

And she also said that she gave George$4,000 to help cover his bills. And I I thought that was weird too. I don't necessarily know if I believe that. She's like, oh, I sold a story to like National Enquirer or something, and then gave uh George the money. Right.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

If she sold a story to National Enquirer, we don't need to believe it's a good one. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

That's like the worst of the worst. There's so many parallels from the Casey Anthony and Sherry Papini case. Yeah. Like these past two weeks, researching them back to back. Yeah. Like they're basically the same person.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

The same person. I was thinking that. As I'm watching the two, I'm like, I said I think I texted you and said, I think I went they went to the same school of lying. Because they are basically the same person. They both seem to 100% buy into their own lies.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

No matter the the facts and the evidence that you present them, they will still sit there and say, no, this is not correct. My version is correct.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Or when you catch them in a lie, like, but you said the body was wet, and now you're saying there's no way that she could have fallen in the pool and she's just like shrugs. I don't know. I don't I don't know. Right. I can't explain that. No, of course you can't, because it's a lie. This is bullshit. There is no explanation for bullshit. There's never been anything else like this, has there?

SPEAKER_01 8:00

I don't think so. Not in recent history that I can recall. It's the 31 days that just Um, there was a case that came out like shortly after or during the same time period as as Kaylee. Um, and I think it was also in Florida, and it was this toddler, maybe like a four-year-old, that was found in a suitcase in like a river or something. Do you remember that? And it was getting coverage around the same time, but it didn't blow up quite like hers, hers, because it was like the biggest thing at the time. But Nancy Grace covered it extensively, and somebody called in, because Nancy's like, you know, going on her rant as she does, and she's like, we got to catch this scumbag, you know, he's a scumbag, referring to it as a man, whoever the perp is. And a viewer calls in and she's like, Well, what I want to know is why do you keep referring to this person as a man? We don't know, it could be a woman. And then, you know, weeks, yeah, weeks after, you know, they find out who did it, and it actually was a woman. And I don't remember the name of this little girl or anything. We'll have to look into that. Maybe do that one one day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Um, and the Genesis read Vaguely. Which one is that? Just happened.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Um, the mom uh killed her on Christmas Day, right? Right.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

I think we need to do that one.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

Um, wait for more well, wait for her to get convicted, probably. Yeah. Because they just found that she had died, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:33

Yeah. And Ashley Buzzard, had you been following that one? Oh, tell me. So the mom. So she'd been missing for some months, Ashley Buzzard. I think she was eight years old. And the mom says that they went on like a road trip throughout the a couple of states. And she had the little girl when she left, but she came back without her. And so everybody's like, Where's Melody? And she's like, I don't know, basically. Like Casey Andrew. Oops, lost her on the way. Right. So um left her at that truck stop. Yeah. So they searched and searched for her for months, couldn't find her. They found uh video surveillance of them at a gas station somewhere, and she had the daughter dressed up like inappropriately, had a a wig a really long wig on her and was like trying to make her look like she was 20 years old instead of an eight-year-old. And it so that was just weird. The mom herself was also wearing wigs and disguises, so like you could tell she didn't want them to be recognized. But they do eventually find her body. I don't remember all the details. And they arrested the mom. And this is still ongoing, so I don't know what exactly has happened, but the consensus is obviously this mom freaking killed her, which is horrible. That's another one we'll have to do at some point. What about the um the Turpin kids? Do you know that one? It's like 16 kids or something living in a house of horrors. They were basically held captive. I didn't know if you would want to do this one, so I hadn't brought it up, but their parents literally confined them. They didn't go to school, they never left the house, they starved them, and one of the the girls eventually escapes and flags down a cop, and it's like, hey, we're literally being abused. And so they get taken away.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

Was this on their biological children? 60 biological children?

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Yes, yes. Wow. So they all get taken away by children's services, obviously. But then a two or three of them end up in a foster family that also ends up sexually abusing and neglecting. Oh my god. Yeah, this is recent, these updates. Um, and they those people were just sentenced to a good a good amount of time in prison. Um the foster family? The foster family, yeah. Um, but yeah, just to go from one home of abuse just into another is just heart-wrenching. Like that's some shitty luck. Yeah. Well, it's a failure too, of children's yeah, yeah. Hmm. How do people do these things to their children?

SPEAKER_00 12:14

Uh and we talked about Fred and Rose West. Yeah, oh my god. Which we will cover. Yeah. But I mean, they murdered their own children.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

I don't know. I don't know. How people are this sick?

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Actually, just to murder anybody, period, you've got to be pretty fucked up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

But your own kid, who like you're biologically wired to take care of.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

I don't know if murder is biologically wired to take care of anybody.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

To be for yeah. So many kid ones. Very often they're so small. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Yeah. Like I think Casey's I think the reason that that one got so big is because she just so blatantly resented being a mother. And while Kaylee was missing, she was partying her ass off. And it it was there in the photos. And that's what pissed everybody off, myself included.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

I like that she said, well, Tony was a um DJ, so I wasn't actually partying, I was working, helping him promote his business. Um, so the sexy body contest was work. Right. And you can tell in the photos she is having the time of her life. And one of her friends tried to say that a lot of the pictures they showed weren't from that time period. That one of them was from her 21st birthday and so on. But we know for a fact that the blue dress one was from that period.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

Yeah. And she's like making out with other girls and And you have also all these other witnesses, not just the photos, but the witnesses that say she seemed completely unbothered. Like the day that all that happened with the car, Cindy actually went out to go find Casey because she wasn't answering our phone. So she goes to Tony's house and she walks in and they're all just sitting there like smoking pot. Like strung out. Like, that's not a mother that is concerned.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

So say she was working for Tony's DJ business. I could never put on a good enough face to go to work and act like I'm partying and having a good time if my two-year-old was missing. Wild horses could not drag me to work or to a club or so it's really irrelevant as to whether you were working as a promoter or whether you were out partying as a partier. You were doing things that a normal person does not do when their child is missing.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

We had um a bit of a scare. Evan was like 16 and he was misdiagnosed with leukemia. Oh my god. We actually had um, oh, I forget what you call it. Here, mono. He had mono. Um, which shows up very similar to leukemia. Right. And so he's 16. I'm in the hospital with him. They're telling me your son may have leukemia, we need to do further tests. Oh my god. I literally called my work and said, just do whatever, but I'm not gonna be there until this is figured out. Right. And I didn't leave his side. And that's when there was a possible diagnosis of something bad. Not missing. Right. He was right there with me. But I called work and said, do what you have to do, but I'm not coming in until this is sorted.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Yeah, I mean, there are some things certainly that you can put on a happy face or a normal face and get through it and do what you need to do. Having a missing two-year-old is not one of them, not one of them. I don't care what anybody says. Yeah. They're like, oh, she was just really good at com compartmentalizing. You do not compartmentalize a missing two-year-old.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

No, you lose your fucking mind. I'd be screaming and yelling and shaking people and crying. Calling everybody and I would not stop searching.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

And then when the cops who are trying to help find her, like you aid in their investigation, you don't fucking lie to them.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Yes. At that point, there's no need to lie about anything. You've got to be truthful to help find your child. Lying just makes it harder for them to find your child. It takes longer. It wastes time.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

And that's how you know she's a liar, and she never had any intention of helping to find Kaylee because she knew Kaylee was fucking dead already.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

And how she didn't get the neglect charge. I mean, now they say they've passed it in Florida, where if you don't report your child missing, then you go to jail for um 20 years. I mean, great. So it's a thing now. But that charge against her was child neglect. And the child neglect was for not having reported it for 30 days. And she admitted to that. How did they not find her guilty of that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

It was just such a miscarriage of justice on so many levels.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

I wonder if the jury members still get probably shit for it. People hold a grudge for a long time. And I I wish they could have debated it for more than 11 hours. That doesn't sit right with me either.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Mm-mm. There could have been some tampering or something there. I don't trust Jose Baez, first and foremost. So like who knows?

SPEAKER_00 17:35

But I feel like all of the evidence and there was so much to take in. How can you get through that?

SPEAKER_01 17:42

In 11 hours, yeah. I mean, because we've been sitting here now for 18 minutes, and then the episode was like an hour, and like we barely scratched the surface on it. Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

They're not trying to find anybody guilty or not guilty. Right. And yeah, I'm sure they break for lunch and that's just crazy. I mean, I don't believe they should have death threats, but I believe they didn't do the job.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

I don't think they did either. And maybe they were just so exhausted, and you know, I d I don't know. Either way, like that's your civic duty and you should do it right.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

And if stuff did come to surface now, that you can't be tried twice for the same murder, can you? No.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

So she still wouldn't get She's still free for the rest of her life. Yeah, no matter what. But poor me, nobody likes me and will give me a job. I'm not free. Well then you shouldn't have murdered your daughter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

Ugh. If you didn't like the attention, you'd have changed your name and moved to country. We cannot wait to get you guys feedback on this. I mean if there's anybody out there that believes that she's totally 100% innocent, tell us and tell us why. Please tell us on what you base that. Yes. Please. It's gonna blow my mind. Yeah. We promise not to hate on you.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

No, I'm just I'm interested on a different perspective, to be honest, because everything seems so glaring to me.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess there must be people that that do believe her story. All right, well, join us for Sheridan P. And I'm sure there'll be some similarities there that you guys see as well. But until next time, B Divas. Not deadly.