Episode 13: After Show

We discuss the episode and quite honestly chit chat about all kids of other random topics, including if dolphins are actually aliens...

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Hey Debons and dude, welcome to the after show. So we just recorded the Scarlett story. It's one that just particularly sticks out in my mind. Just it's so hard being a 16-year-old girl at high school as it is. I was one that was never in a click, and I was in a small group with three close friends, and we were three very different people, but um we were not like them.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Thank God, or one of you wouldn't be here today. Um and I was that friend actually that kind of got pushed out. Like I was never a cool kid. I wasn't a cool kid till after school. Same, yeah. So like now we're the coolest. We're the coolest. But all my friends wanted to do like all the bad stuff, like, oh, let's go do drugs and find boys. And I was not interested. I was not interested whatsoever at that age. I just wanted to go home and like play video games and get Taco Bell and watch true crime.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

So I was only interested in horses at that point. Oh, you were the horse girl. I was the one that's right. So at 16 I had a month there. And I would leave school and go straight to the horse yard. Basically, I just desperately wanted to learn how to ride horses. My parents were like, that's not in our budget right now. So I found a horse farm and I was like, I will work for lessons. And so I went there every night after school and worked all day Saturday, and then I got to ride on Sundays.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Oh, that's nice. And um Do you have any pictures? Oh, a ton. I used to compete. Show me some pictures sometime. How exciting. We'll post some. I will. I don't know about posts. Why not?

SPEAKER_01 1:58

And actually when I left school, I went on to become um a BHSAI, which is a British Horse Society Assistant Instructor. Oh my god, fancy. Yeah, all right. Wow. Yeah, I'm a qualified horse riding instructor and tattoo artist, and I don't do either. Wow. And now you're a podcaster. And now I'm a podcaster. But I'm still awesome, of course. Of course. So yeah, that's what I did at school. I was not in any of the the cliques. I was just obsessed with horses, and all I wanted to do was be with my horses and ride horses. There are much worse things you could have been doing. Definitely. I was not doing the drugs and the boys.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

That kind of boys.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

Anyway, so what if we think? I I'll tell you what I think. I think that Sheila was the mastermind. 100%. I do not think that Rachel is an innocent bystander by any means. I think that she took part and I think that she benefited from it.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

But I don't think she'd ever have come up with the idea. No. Or participated in that kind of behavior. She must have had some kind of obsession with Sheila.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Yeah, she and she did say that was one of the things that she said was like their relationship, the relationship between Rachel and Sheila was completely unhealthy, completely obsessive, completely targeted. Yeah, very intense. And um, I think they both really felt like Skylar unfortunately got in the way because she just wanted to be included, which is so sad. But then Rachel had that other element of like being from a really religious family. And I think she was very, very scared that with all that friction, that the lesbian relationship was gonna get exposed. So I think that she thought, well, if Skylar doesn't exist anymore, then I don't have to worry about that. And that's horrible. But I do think that's one reason that she went through with it.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Also, sometimes teenagers that are brought up in a really strict environment do tend to like go the total opposite way, rebel.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

I have seen it many, many, many times.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

So you've got Sheila, who is in from the laid-back family, whose parents were like, sure, do whatever, smoke drugs, we don't care. And then you've got Rachel, whose family was so super strict that maybe she was ready to rebel against that.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

Yeah, definitely. And Sheila, it's like uh the parents of Skylar said, I think the dad said it, that it really seemed like Sheila just had no soul. I mean, she never looked remorseful, she never seemed bothered. You know, all of those months, she just kept going to school and kept living her life, partying it up, having a great time. Whereas Rachel obviously was struggling a lot throughout the whole ordeal. And she did seem sympathetic at the trial or the sentencing or whatever that was. Yeah, remorseful.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Yeah, if both of them acted normal, as it were, during the period of time that everyone was searching for Skyla. But at the same time, it seemed like she was keeping a low profile, whereas Sheila was posting saying, I can't believe this is happening. I'm so devastated. It's like she wanted to bring attention to it. Right.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

And to herself, poor me, my friend is missing. And Rachel's just like, Well, I'm at church camp, bye.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Yeah, which seemed cold at the time, but but at least she wasn't being fake like like Sheila. I think Sheila's where she needs to be. And I don't know why they turned down Rachel's parole a couple of times, but I'm hoping that they turn down Sheila's forever.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

I agree. I I think that Sheila is bad, evil. I think that she's where she needs to be. And again, I'm not a professional, y'all. I always say it. I could be totally wrong. Trust me, they're not releasing anybody from prison because of my opinions. But I I still I just want to say that just in case. I do think Rachel could possibly be reformed because she did seem remorseful. Sheila, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

She's well, I don't think Rachel ever would have done it herself off of her own back. I think Sheila could instigate that again with somebody else.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

Right. And they definitely need to be kept away from each other from each other, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Yes. Toxic. She's so toxic.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

And the social media and all this is just crazy because I think nowadays with social media, it would have taken the cops all of two seconds to figure this out.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

It was so obvious. Like if we had the same angle that we do now back then on social media, uh it would have been solved.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

As I said, it was fairly new. It's kind of like one of those things that the kids do, but the police weren't really in tune with yet.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Oh, Skyler's Law. Oh, yes. So um her Skylar's case actually changed the Amber Alert protocols. And there is no more waiting period in some cases, if like a child or a teenager goes missing, which is great.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

It's great. But how does how's it relevant to the case? Because they wouldn't have found her any any different usually somebody brings in a law like that.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

I mean, they did wait to to to contact. Like she didn't she didn't sleep in her bed that night, and obviously her parents didn't know that until the next morning, but then they still didn't immediately call, which I'm not blaming the parents whatsoever. But if that had been me and I went to my 16-year-old daughter's room and it looked like her bed hadn't been slept in, and she didn't tell me she wasn't going to be there, that's immediate panic, and I'm immediately calling somebody right freaking now. I'm not waiting until 4 p.m. or whatever. And oh, if she doesn't show up at work, then I'll worry. No, I'm worrying at 7 a.m. when I first notice it.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

I'd probably be looking, like calling around the friends and looking. I would assume the police aren't gonna take me seriously out.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

Oh, I wouldn't make the police take me seriously. I mean, so for an adult, you ha they have to be missing for 24 hours, right? No, that's a fake thing. That's not even true. Really? No. I believed that. Yeah, most people do, but no, that's not true at all. So the TV shows lied to me? Yeah, yeah. Everybody and a lot of police stations will tell you that. They'll actually tell you that because that's like their guideline. But there's no hard rule or hard restriction that says you have to wait 24 hours. That does not exist. Well, so it's all circumstantial. It's all right.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

So certain people that could disappear all the time, maybe. Yeah. They'll wait, but other people that they're like, No, she would never do this.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

Well, in some cases. It depends on the police department. Depends on whether they care or not. Sure, they should care. I know. I just can't imagine what Skylar's last thoughts were. She was probably devastated. Like, wow, I really thought you guys were my friends. Why are you doing this? Just heart-wrenching.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

I think it's one of the reasons why it did stick out to me for so long. Because I was in that threesome friend group all through high school, and you put yourself in that situation. It would just be disbelief.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Yeah, and high school friend groups, girls can be so toxic. Like it can get so bad, especially if one or two of them are like, you know, struggling with something or have issues or are a freaking sociopath like Sheila seems to be. Um You've also got all the hormones.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Like everybody's in puberty at the same time. I, of course, was was an angelic, yeah. I'm gonna ask your mom. Please don't. And my sister was the moody. Like, she didn't want to do anything with us, go anywhere with us. She said mean things, and we all remember that time, but we don't really talk about it anymore because you know, she turned into a wonderful adult. But she definitely went through a phase of being very, I don't know what the word is, aggressive. Braddy. Yeah. Batty. Aggressive and unpleasant, unfriendly. And it's just it's hormones.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

And it's hard, and it's not any fun for them during that time either, because they're just pissed off about it. She was miserable. Yeah. She was miserable. She was around to run away all the time. It's tough. That's tough on everybody in the household. If you're listening, sis, it's okay. It's okay. I don't know you, but I hurt you. Oh, she's an amazing human being. I bet she is.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

She probably had to go through that to become the incredible person she is today. But we do remember the dark years.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

The dark years. The dark years.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

The dark ages. I'm sure I wasn't the easiest teenager either, but I wasn't like that. I probably had other issues that I wasn't aware of because I was a teenager at the time.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

Yeah. I was I was very sweet and nice and passive up until I was a teenager. Like I was an angel. I did whatever I was told. And then when I became a teenager, I hated everything and everybody. And I did run away. And it's a miracle on the life. Oh, damn it. Tell me. Um, I was 14 and I ran away with a 26-year-old man. Girl. I know. I ran away with him. Um, and I was gone for like a week.

unknown 11:27

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

And I told my mom. Where did you go? What did you do? He lived in Augusta, Georgia. So I went to his house and I met him online on Yahoo in a Yahoo chat room. And um I told my mom I was going over to my friends' house. With a fake profile? No, not with a fake profile in this instance. Um, I told my mom I was going over to a friend's house for a couple days, and then obviously, like I didn't want to go back home because home was misery. So I was like, I'm just gonna stay with you. And he's like, Yeah, no problem. You can stay with me. And so I just didn't go back. Were you together? Like a couple of yeah, we were together. Well, I was 14 and he was 26, so we weren't a couple. You were together. He was a predator. Finally, the shit hit the fan, and my mom's like, Where are you? What's going on? They had the cops looking for me, blah, blah, blah. But nobody knew where I was. I didn't tell a single soul where I was, so they would have never found me. Um, thank goodness he didn't kill you. I know, that's what I'm saying. It's a miracle on the live. But eventually, I was like a week into it, I'm like, okay, well, I guess I have to go home, so take me home. So he took me home. And like we dated after that. My mom allowed me to continue dating him for months after that.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Yeah. He didn't get charged or no, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. My mom did not give shit. My mom was like um Sheila's mom except worse.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Sam, I I don't know if I would call my parents laid back because they didn't encourage the behavior, but they were naive. I was the oldest and they were really very like they believed all my lies.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

Because you were their first go-around, right? Right. Right. Right. So they were just naive. But yeah, I was a monstrous teenager.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

I'm stunned. Was that the only time you ran away? Yes. I would run away, but I would run to the end of the street and I would wait two hours, and when nobody came looking for when nobody came looking for me, I would just cry and go home. And no one even noticed.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

That's so sad. I would have been looking for you.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Of course, there was no internet then, so I couldn't meet anybody to I'm the old one. Hmm. I'm old too. Thank goodness there was no internet then. I can't imagine what I would have got to do.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

You would probably not be alive now. No, probably not. That actually sounds like a nice life. That doesn't sound bad. Have you ever seen the movie The Big Blue?

SPEAKER_01 13:49

No. Yeah, it's a very random obscure movie, so I didn't think you would have, but um, it's about two deep sea divers. They compete without equipment. So they they go down as far as they can for as long as they can, and whoever stays down the longest like wins. And there's these competitions, and it's about these two particular rivals. It's by uh Luc Bisson, who did Fifth Element. It's one of his earliest movies, and at the end of it, one of them doesn't want to go on for various reasons throughout the movie. So he goes down deeper than he knows that he can survive and just swims off with dolphins. And I absolutely freaking love dolphins, and I always joke that I'm gonna swim off with the dolphins. So wow, that's sad though. It it's a yeah, it's a sad ending, but it's a great movie.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

I'll have to watch John Renault's in it.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

It's got who? I don't know who that is. You'll know what you see in. Okay. You're giving me too many movies. I'm never gonna be able to finish these movies that you're giving me. I haven't watched a single one yet.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Well, that's why I'm gonna look you up in a hotel room for 24 hours. Oh yeah, that's right. Okay. I'll be like, next, this one. I watch all the movies you tell me.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

Have you watched all no, you haven't watched the screen movies. Well, there hasn't been enough time. But I've watched four Final Destinations.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

And that's impressive, honestly. Yeah. They are they are only an hour and a half long. True. So you can knock it out pretty quick. But that's a good movie. And um, it's kind of like a running family joke now. You be on the beach and see a dolphin fin and I'll run towards the sea being, I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm gonna swim away with you.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Did you hear about that guy? It's it's been proven a hoax now, but it was circulating social media like last week or the week before. There was a guy that the police picked up off the side of the road in Florida, and he said that he'd been kidnapped by dolphins. No, you didn't hear that? No. He said that he had been kidnapped. Right? He said he'd been kidnapped by dolphins, and they took him down under the ocean and they had him build an underwater city for him. And like it was circulating as if it was real, and I believed it was real, and I'm like, well, this man is just batshit, but I read yesterday that it actually was a hoax. So shocker, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:13

There's I can't remember if it's a movie or a theory or whatever that that dolphins actually run the planet. Really? Because they're they're the only animal that's supposed to be as intelligent as us, right? So they're the only animal that has individual names for each other, and we don't even have individual names because names get repeated, right? And they actually have an individual name for each other, and they also are the only other mammal on the planet that mates for fun and not just appropriate. So, but there's some theory that they're actually like more intelligent than us. They could be, and that they run the planet.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

So two things on that. One, some guy recently came out, like he was like a top Navy official in the United States Navy or something. And he's like, Oh, by the way, guys, there's aliens under the ocean. And I don't know all the specifics on that. I haven't looked into it because I'm scared, frankly. So maybe the dolphins are the aliens, or like maybe the dolphins are the aliens.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

And I and I I almost said that. I almost said that when I was saying to you that um the theory or the movie or whatever that they run the planet is that they did come from another planet.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

To this planet and took over the planet.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Mmm, okay. And the other thing, since we're talking about dolphins, which is a bit more disturbing, if if you can imagine something more disturbing than aliens, there was this woman, I think it was like back in the 70s or 80s, who was like a researcher at NASA or something. And she carried on like a relationship, like a sexual relationship with a dolphin.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

I did hear that. I thought you were gonna say she carried on a sexual relationship with an alien. She might have. Well, especially if she'll do a dolphin, yeah. People are crazy. I have 13 dolphins tattooed on one body.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

I love dolphins.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

They're very interesting creatures. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. I'm ready to go to the beach. All right. This after show is just our chit-chit. Yeah, they kind of turned into that. We should probably be done now. Yeah. Because we have like uh six more episodes to record today, so wish us luck. Um, next we're recording what Jennifer did. Yes, we are recording what Jennifer did next.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

And we will try and keep our thoughts for the after show and not tell all of the story in the show. We'll try. But you know, our subscribers are our friends, and so they do get to be in on our personal conversations and our assuming the shit. Yeah. I wish they could share the shit with us. Same. All right, guys. Well, we will see you at the next after show.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

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