Episode 17: After Show

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Hey, hey, hey, Deadly Devons! And dudes. Welcome to the after show for Scott Peterson. Boo. So much to talk about.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

I'm still mad at him. I'm so infuriated at this case.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Yeah, he's probably one of the most outrageous liars. I mean, keeping it going with Amber after she knows about it.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

After she's made a public statement, dude. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

Like, how obnoxiously out there can you be to like not give a crap? I'm just, he's delusional.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Yeah, he's 100% delusional. And it's like I said in the episode, I think that his parents probably just gave him everything he ever wanted, and he probably never suffered consequences for anything.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

But so do a lot of people, and they don't murder pregnant people.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

No, they don't murder their wives, but I'm saying that's one piece of a puzzle.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Can you imagine how Lacey felt when she realized what was going on?

SPEAKER_00 1:23

I I can't. And she's pregnant too. You know, obviously she's scared for herself, but also for her baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

And the person she trusts most in the world that she thinks is also there to protect the baby is now tacking her.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

It's unfathomable. What did they theorize was the the method that he used? It was suffocation, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:48

Suffocation or strangulation at home. They couldn't tell because there was no head. Right. And that was one of the things that the defense had going for them, is that like Casey Anthony, there was no cause of death, there was no time of death, um, there was no place of death.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

But yeah, so that leaves a lot of holes that the prosecution has to fill in.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

But I think they had plenty of filler. They had a lot of filler. When your only other possibility is either A, somebody broke into the house and k abducted her. Um, no one else's fingerprints are in the house. There's no sign of forced entry, there's no motive.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

And the body is found where he literally was the day she went missing.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

And they said it was a 90-minute drive there. Yeah. So these abductors, what they they broke into the house, abducted somebody for no reason with no motive, and then decided to drive her an hour and a half away to dump her where he happened to be fishing.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Right. That's a convoluted mess. Like no criminal is gonna do that because that's just fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

And then the other theory is that she tried to stop a burglary in progress, which you would as a woman by yourself, eight months pregnant. I would never if I thought my parent my parent my neighbor's house was being broken in too, I would call the police and then I would call my neighbors. Not once for one millisecond would it occur to me to go and confront anybody.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

He's probably such a narcissist and wants to be the hero that he thought, oh, well, what would I do if I saw a burglary in process? I would go and be the hero and try to stop him. No, you wouldn't. He's a pussy. I don't think he would either. But in his mind, you know, the narcissist that he is, I think that's what he thinks he would do.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

And unfortunately, those two possibilities gave his family something to grasp onto.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned that because I want to talk about his sister, who apparently got a a whole law degree.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

That was a sister-in-law, the one whose husband isn't involved in the Right.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

Yeah. Which is weird. Which is fucking nuts. Like, obviously, she really believes he's innocent. Because you wouldn't go and do all that if you didn't, but like, how can you look at all of the evidence and look at his behavior and believe anything else? How? Like, is there some dynamic between the two of them? That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Does she really truly believe she's innocent? Or did she go and get a law degree because this is her 15 minutes of fame? Well, it could be that, yeah. Well, she wasn't, she wasn't a biological. I was gonna say if she was a biological sister, she could be as narcissistic as him. But she's she's married to his brother, who I found very odd that it was he was decidedly absent, considering his wife is the one fighting so hard and got the law degree. You would have thought they would at least say to him, Hey, proud of your wife, you know, or something that he would have been on the interview. But but I think she was in in the first documentary, she was in the second documentary, she gets the law degree. I'm thinking that she wants her 15 minutes of fame, but not as the killer's sister-in-law.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Right. So she wants to prove him innocent because he's an extension of her and therefore her reputation and her persona. Right.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

And I'm sure that she all gets to sell books and profit off this. She she probably got paid to go on each documentary, so that's two documentaries she's gone on.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

So just somebody else profiting. And that's something else that we didn't talk about was how Amber Fry profited.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

She did. And I remember that we talked about this before in our first episode. Was it our first episode? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I do feel, like we talked about in the first episode, that that she hyped it up quite a bit for herself to where she got very well known and she did profit off of it. When I went back and watched these documentaries, all I really felt, because all it showed in these documentaries, all I really felt was how brave and bold she was coming forward and keeping up the farce of talking to him while the police were listening. I don't know that I could have done that. I would have been so disgusted by him that I don't think I would have been able to not show it. So I was impressed with her acting abilities during the whole case and her press release and her witness statement. So, as far as like the case goes and the court goes and everything, pat on the back for Amber. After that, when there were books and appearances and everything else, that was when it got tacky.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

It got completely disrespectful.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

Because if I had been in that position, and I truly believe that she didn't know he was married, and so she therefore found herself in that position, not knowingly wanting to be in that position. Um, and she did the right thing as far as the disappearance of Lacey goes, but I would have wanted to hide away after it all played out. Right. I would want to be like not in the public eye anymore. I'd want to be trying to rebuild my life, especially as she has a young daughter.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Exactly. And not only that, but with her profiting off of the books and the interviews and just keeping this going and just who she is, like she is literally the mistress of the man that killed Lacey. Imagine how Lacey's family must have felt every time they heard about her and the book and this and that. It's just, it must have been just an absolute stab, a knife to the heart. Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

No, I do I do feel that that was very tacky. And I do feel that if I had been in that position, that I don't know, that I would have been as strong as her during the entrapment and so on. 100% I would go to court and testify because you always would. But I think afterwards she needed to like hush. Yeah, go back to go go back to your normal quiet life. Aga for the sake of your daughter as well. Right. Not just the the sake of Lace's family and respect for them. But your daughter's growing up. I mean imagine how high school is for Amber for a daughter. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

I can't. I don't want to.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Yeah. I mean, she'd be an adult now, but Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

I'm sure that that was difficult. Very difficult. Totally pivoting. But what was the deal with him needing to be away on Christmas in the first place? Which we know now that he went to that party with Amber, right? But I just wonder what did he tell Lacey? Because Lacey had her annual big Christmas party that she went to every year, and it was like a big thing, and all her family and friends were there. It was a big to-do. And Scott apparently, up until that year, went with her. But for whatever reason, this year he didn't go and it was to go see his mistress. But like, I just wonder what excuse he gave to Lacey because she was so bummed out that he wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

It was something work-related, which is odd because he was a fertilizer salesman.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Right. What who do who needs fertilizer this urgently? And what was it he had on his name tag, horny?

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Oh, I don't know. What was it? They said that when he went to this um convention or whatever, it was obvious that he was looking to hook up because on his name tag he wrote something like Horny Bastard.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

Oh my god, what a he is such a loser. What a disgusting fucking creep.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

So where he met the friend of Amber's that introduced him, he didn't meet Amber there, but he was on a work conference and they said that he was obviously like looking to hook up or find somebody because he'd written horny bastard on his name tag. I've I'm just disgusted. I'm I I don't even know what to say. If somebody tried to pick me up and they had horny bastard written on their name tag, I I would be just so disgusted. I would be like, um, no thank you.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

Turn around, walk away, do not talk to me, do not look at me.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

I don't think I could even say no thank you. I'd be so busy laughing. Like, does that you honestly think that's gonna work?

SPEAKER_00 10:24

I mean, like if you're at a fucking like nudist event or s or something, what are whatever these people do, I don't know what to do. Like that might be appropriate, but this is not appropriate.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

Yeah. At a work convention.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

I didn't know that, and I'm but you're not surprised. No, I'm not I'm not surprised.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

I want to know if his boss was there and what he thought of that. Right. Oh. Oh, Tina's face is so disgusted right now. Y'all, oof. But that just shows you that he didn't like accidentally hook up with Amber, who he just happened to fall in love with. He was out looking.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

He was out looking. He was looking for someone, and if he hadn't found Amber, it would have just been somebody else. And who knows, if this hadn't happened, it may have just been another victim. Because obviously he doesn't see people as people.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

I'm just making sure it said, Yeah, horny bastard, I was right. God, and a work thing? Yes, this says during Scott Peterson murder trial, evidence was presented regarding a name tag he wore to a party that read horny bastard.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

At my work, you're getting definitely written up, but probably fired if you do something like that. That's literally sexual harassment.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

So Sean Sibley, a witness, testified she met Scott Peterson at the party where he was wearing the name tag, which she described as reading horny bastard. And then she pawned him off on her friend. According to Sibley, Peterson was pretending to be single at the time and asked her what he could put on his name tag to attract women, according to a testimony reported in the San Francisco Chronicle. This detail was used by prosecutors to demonstrate that Peterson was actively representing himself as an unattached man despite being married to Lacey, who was eight months pregnant at the time of her disappearance. Sibley noted that the phrase was in a little plastic sliding name tag and that the event occurred around a year before his wife Lacey went missing.

SPEAKER_00 12:37

I'm disgusted.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Yeah, I was right. Horny bastard. I knew it said horny something, and I was like, I hope I didn't get that role on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

And this woman goes and tells her friend, oh, I met this great guy.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

I don't know that that was the same woman that introduced him to that. That could have been the person that she said he asked me what I should write on the name tag. Okay. So maybe that was just the person giving out the name tags. We'll hope. Because what the fuck? Yeah, I would not introduce anybody. Somebody that wrote horny bastard on the thing.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

How did I not know about this? I like, wow. It must be one of those things that just went in one ear and out the other because I was so disgusted.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

What made me think of it after um was the Viagra in the car. I was like, that tracks. Horny Bastard has Viagra in the car.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

He probably always has a supply. Yeah. I'm gobsmacked. I just I just don't even know where to go from here.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

Yeah, snote to everybody. Don't put horny bastard on your name tag at a Christmas party. At a work Christmas party.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

It's not gonna help you pick up women, I promise.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

It's going to actually repel women. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Another weird thing about him, you've seen Gone Girl, the movie, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Which was based on a true story, right?

SPEAKER_00 13:58

I mean, like loosely, yeah, I think so. The way that Scott looks and acts so much like Ben Affleck in that movie is so creepy to me. And I've always wondered if Ben Affleck like studied Scott or something for that role.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

I don't know, but I wish Lacey Peterson had gone girl him. That would have been a lot better outcome. That would have. Yeah. Oh, that was another thing in my mind. They didn't mention it in the documentary, but when they say the number one cause of death in heavily pregnant women is murder, it made me think of all the people that can't have their own kids or they've faked a pregnancy and then they kidnap a pregnant woman because they want the baby. I mean, we've heard several of those stories, right? It occurred to me that they may have thought that what was what was going on. Right. Because she was so heavily pregnant, obviously the baby would survive and was, you know, almost ripe, as it were. Yeah, yeah. Almost fully cooked. So they never mentioned at any point that they thought that might be the case. Right. But it did occur to me that maybe somebody had, because had they not found Connor's body and just hers, right? Right. That could have been a possibility. They do also say, I don't know if you saw this or noticed it, that they believe that the fetus broke away before it died. That's horrific. Which I'm assuming either if she passed first that it floated out, or I don't know, is it decomposed, but it was still alive when it exited the body.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

That's the worst thing I've ever heard. And I did not know that.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

And I also want to echo Lacey's mom's words. Why did he have to kill her?

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Right. Why don't these people just get a divorce? Men, and I'm saying men, it's not always a man, but like most of the time, statistically, it's a man. Just get a divorce. And a lot of the times when you say that to men, they're like, oh, well, I'll be financially ruined, she'll take everything I've got.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Which is one thing they mentioned was that he didn't want to pay Charles Hall.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

It doesn't matter if if you're gonna be financially ruined, that still doesn't give you the right or the murder somebody.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

No, no, I get it. But they were saying that that that was their his motive to kill her rather than to divorce her if he wanted to be with Amber, was if he divorces her, he's still stuck to her for life because they share a child and he has to pay child support. Whereas his motivation, they were saying for killing her was to start afresh without any of the right.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

And let's not forget, he never wanted to have children. So that was another motive he had, I believe. I think that was probably his biggest motive. He did not want a baby.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

And Amber already had a child, and he specifically said to Amber, I don't be enough for me. Because of course, then if he falls out with Amber and divorces her, he doesn't have to pay child support for a child that isn't his.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

And also, maybe on some level, he knows how defunct he is and he doesn't want to pass on his DNA. Well, I I doubt he Ugh no, he's probably not that self-aware. No. But that's what I thought. But rest in peace, Connor, obviously. You know, but obviously Scott is is a sick, evil man.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Delusional too. How did he think he was gonna get away with that?

SPEAKER_00 17:32

He might as well have tattooed I did it across his forehead. Yeah. And and from from the very start, he went and told the neighbors, oh, I'm out golfing, and then told the police, oh, I was out fishing. So from the very start, he was full of shit.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

Mm-hmm. Because he knew it would look suspect that he drove 90 minutes to put a new boat in the water that wasn't even for him, was a gift for somebody else. When the police said there are so many reservoirs around, my thought would be, my wife's eight months pregnant. I need to stay in the area. Right, right. I don't want to be 90 minutes away. Unreachable in the middle of the lake. In a bay when I could be 10 minutes away in a reservoir if all I'm doing is testing a boat.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

And why did he need to test the boat on Christmas frickin' Eve anyway? None of the boat shit makes any sense. Correct. Unless he bought it because he knew that he was going to murder his wife and dump her in the bay.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Well, he bought it on December 9th, the day that he told Emma his wife had gone missing. It all sounds very premeditated to me. And nobody else knew he had a boat. If you like fishing and you've bought a boat, you're shouting it from the rooftops.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Oh, yeah. Like if you are a fishing person, everybody knows that. That's like your number one hobby. You have like fish on your wall, and you know, your garage is full of fishing rods and blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

And your and your ultimate accessory is a boat. Right. So you don't buy one and then keep it secret. Mm-hmm. Unless you're buying it for a purpose. Yeah. Well, I'm sure our listeners have a lot to say about this one too.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Let us know what y'all think. Does a single person out there aside from the LA Innocence Project think that this man is innocent? Let us know. Or his sister-in-law. Right. Janie. I hope he never gets out. Be as big of a miscarriage of justice as Casey Anthony, or possibly even worse, because he murdered two people. And he'll do it again if he gets out. Because he obviously doesn't see women as human beings. He uses them and then disposes of them.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Yeah, Amber made a bad lucky mistake. Who knows when he would have got bought a hurt. Exactly. And he'd have horny blasted it out some other place to Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

To find his next unsuspecting victim.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

All right, what do we have for the next week? No.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Corey Richard.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Oh. Another piece of shit.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Another yeah, another real piece of shit. Murdered her husband and um wrote a children's grief book to help her three sons cope with losing them.

SPEAKER_01 20:11

I think it might have helped them more not to murder their dad, actually.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

That probably would have been the better route to take. Yeah. Must have slipped her mind.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

All right, guys. Um, so we will see you next week to talk about Corey Richens.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

No, yes, Corey Richens, yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Sorry. No, yes, no, maybe. Until then. Be divas. Not deadly. Bye. Bye.