Episode 30: After Show

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Hey divas and dudes, this is the after show for Maternal Instinct AKA the horrible, terrible Taylor Parker. Yeah. This is just a gruesome horror show of a case. It is, and I wanna dive right in. Did you hear about the Drano poisoning? No, hit me with it. So several of Wade's family members, they'd had like, some big family dinner or something, and they all complained of eating something that Taylor had made, which Taylor herself refused to eat. She's like, "No, I don't want any of this." Well, after they all ate it, they all fell ill And there were also separate instances, where Wade got sick and other family members got sick, and They all got together and were able to basically isolate it to only happening when they ate food that Taylor had made. And one of the family members, I don't know exactly determined it, but they believe that Taylor was poisoning them with Drano. But why? Because she's a crazy bitch. Well, yeah, but, like, if she supposedly loved Wade, and she was so desperate to keep him that she would fake a pregnancy, why kill him? Well, I mean, I think she wanted to make all of them sick because she felt like they were against her. The rest of the family, I get, but- As for, as for Wade, maybe she thought that if she got rid of him too, all of his assets would go to her because she was the mother of his child, even though in reality we know that wasn't the case. But in her warped mind, you know, she's like- Right "Oh, he's got all this property," and, you know, whatever. Right. We really don't wanna credit her with logical thinking, do we? No, we don't. But in one way it definitely blew my mind, but in another way it's like, she did worse. She did worse than poisoning people with Drano, so why wouldn't she? True. Sounds like her MO. Yeah, for real. I've got down here, do we think that the pregnancy and ultimately the baby was just a ploy to keep Wade, or did she really want another baby? I think both, but I don't think that she wanted a baby for the right reasons. Right. Um, I think probably the main motivation was so that she could entrap Wade. Um, but I also think she very much liked the attention that a baby brought her, and you see a lot of people do that. A lot of women just love having babies, but then when those babies start getting bigger and having a mind of their own and causing trouble and requiring care and taking up attention- And money and money, the mothers no longer want them. So they'll end up with a family member, or they'll go to foster care, but yet the mom keeps popping out more babies and continuing the cycle. So one of the things that occurred to me, the way that she was like, "I'm right and everybody's wrong," and like, "I'll show them when I turn up with a baby," is I did wonder whether she was desperate for another baby because her previous children She didn't have custody of them. Mm. And so that was her way of being like, "Oh, you'll take my baby? I'll just make another one." Yeah, that- "That'll show you." Yeah, that sounds like something that would definitely fit her warped mentality. Yeah, exactly. The way she was like, "Oh, you don't think I'm pregnant?" Wait till I bring home a baby. That she would be the same way. You won't let me see my son? I'll just make another one Right, I'll just have another one. Yeah And then screw you. Yeah And that is exactly the definition of evil, is treating other human beings as just pawns, objects, little babies that didn't ask to be here and be subjected to this torture And then that poor baby that didn't have a chance at all that just makes me so sick, and that brings me to another point that I wanted to make. That body cam footage from where they had her pulled over on the side of the road was incredibly hard to watch. But something that kept jabbing at me was the officer who pulled her over and the main one that was speaking to her in the body cam footage. He acted with no urgency. Like, there's a baby over there turning blue, and you can see it, and he's just, like, having a casual conversation with her. He's like, "Where are you headed? What's going on?" And I'm like, there's a fucking baby dying right there. What are you doing? That bothered me. And, like, the baby did eventually get help. Like, a nurse pulled over, just a citizen pulled over and tried to help the baby and, you know, they did eventually get the baby medical attention, not that it did any good. But as a police officer, as, like, one of the first ones on the scene, they are trained to do CPR and, and give medical assistance until an ambulance can get there, but he was just kinda like, "Hey, how are you doing?" But I wonder whether they're also trained to be very cautious in a situation where if you've got somebody mentally unstable like that, if you try... but it's a baby that was dying I agree that the baby should come first. Yeah. But I'm also saying that maybe they're told, you know, move slowly, don't do anything to upset the crazy person, or, um- Well, there was nothing there in my opinion that would insinuate that she was unstable. She was frantic to get the baby help. Like, she was begging, "I need to get to the hospital. My baby is dying." She didn't have a gun on her and was like, "Don't touch my baby or I'm gonna shoot." Like- Right. Yeah I just, that cop, I don't think- His sense of urgency was off as far as the baby- I don't think he had a clue. I don't think he had a clue, and if he still has a job after that, that's crazy to me. Yeah. Crazy. When I watched it at first I was thinking, I don't see the baby. They just keep taking her out of the car and checking her and talking to her and asking if she's okay. And my assumption was that the baby had already been taken off in an ambulance at that point- Right when they're getting her out of the car. Um, and if that truly was a baby you'd just given birth to and somebody took it off in an ambulance, you wouldn't be like- You would be with the baby- Right. Yeah holy shit. And you would... The conversations she was having with the cop is not... you would be frantically saying, "Where is my baby? I want to go with my baby. Is my baby going to be okay?" Not like, "Can I call my husband 'cause he's supposed to meet me at the hospital." Like, none of that added up either. No, she called him- He's just like, "Oh, let me finish what I'm doing." You're riding off. That was classic. Let me finish up what I'm doing. And he was asked about that. I don't know if it was in the documentary or afterward, because he did a live on social media that I watched. Um, but- That was riveting he answered all the questions that everybody had, and I commend him for that because, I mean, he's getting a lot of shit. But, um, he said the reason that he was so casual about it is because at that point, he didn't believe that she was actually pregnant. She was pregnant. So he was just like, "Okay." I think, I think the mistake there was the cops let her call and talk to him. Right. The cops should have called him and said, "We just found your wife on the side of the road with a newborn baby," and then maybe his sense of urgency would've been different. Yeah. Because the way she spoke to him had no urgency. Yeah. She's like, "Hey, I need you to get to the hospital." As soon... I mean, if you were truly in that situation, you wouldn't be like, "Hey, honey, I need you to get to..." You'd be like, "Oh, God, I just gave birth on the side of the road. Get your butt here." And the baby is dying. Like, that baby was dying. Right. And then his sense of urgency may have been different. It was very weird that the cops did not take the phone and talk to him and tell him what was going on. Yeah. The, the whole stop was, I don't think that it was handled appropriately at all. But it's probably a situation that nobody ever trains anybody for- Yeah and that nobody's ever come across in y- their line of work before, and they're like, "What the crap do we do with this?" Yeah. I mean, I can imagine it, like, it's an off-putting situation. I mean, thank God they don't come across that every day. Right? So I also had down here that, did you know that the hysterectomy was decided upon by her mother and her husband at the time while she was under anesthesia, and she was not a part of the decision-making? And when she woke up to find out it had been done, she was incredibly upset. Yes, and I have something to add to that. Okay. Do you know what her mother said about that at the trial in her testimony? Mm-mm. So there was a text message conversation that came up between the mom and Taylor And Taylor expressed that she was upset that she no longer had a uterus, that she'd had to have a hysterectomy- Right and that she wanted to be able to have children, and she was not happy with the decision that they made. She didn't have a choice. And her mom was just like, "Well, it was kind of a life and death situation. We did what we felt was right." But, but also, however they'd have dealt with that situation, it was an ectopic pregnancy, right? Mm-hmm. And she had endometritis. Mm-hmm. And she had a cyst. Mm-hmm. So even if they hadn't have taken her uterus, I don't think she would've been able to have children again. Right. I mean, I'm not a medical expert, but from what... I've had endometritis, so I have a little bit of knowledge on it. I don't think she would've been able to have children anyway. It is very difficult to impossible for people with those types of conditions to have children. But either way, like, she was upset that it wasn't her choice, and I do understand that, but I also think that her mother and husband ultimately made the right decision. They did the best they could, but... during this conversation, she's expressing her frustration over that, and she's like, "So hey, since you guys made the choice to take my uterus out, do you think that I can just have yours? 'Cause I really want another baby." And her mom is like, "What do you mean, can you have my uterus?" And she's like, "Yeah, they can just take yours out, cut it out, put it in-" Like a transplant Right, "and put it into me." And her mom's like, "That is not how that works." And she's like, "Sure it is. Yeah." Like- What? Yeah. And that just shows you like how completely depraved and out of touch with reality she is that she thinks, "I'll just have your uterus put in me." Right. I don't have one anymore, but yours is still good. Hand it over. Right? Yeah, I'll just cut it out myself. No, exactly. Right? And, and that, that is the part that really made me think. Like, obviously she wasn't squeamish at all about trying to cut a baby out of somebody, so maybe she has these thoughts of like, "Oh, I'll just cut her uterus out and put it in me." Those are- And, and I mean, they say you can learn anything on YouTube. Apparently the way that she cut the baby out was a way in which a C-section would be performed, the way that she went around- Mm-hmm the uterus and the, in the back. I can't watch shows or anything that shows like a medical procedure being done, like a surgery. Human bodies, like the insides, blood, and guts, I can't even watch it on a TV show. I have to cover my eyes. I was gonna say, or if it's a dramatization. Okay, so- No you can't watch it- I don't like that a documentary or dramatization. Okay. No. I will literally close my eyes. So for her to be able to do that in person to a screaming woman that is alive is unfathomable. Yeah. She's disconnected. Yeah. I mean, I think she's just evil. I don't think that other humans even register to her. The screaming and the kicking and the flailing that, God bless her, Reagan was probably doing just didn't mean anything to her. She was just laser focused on getting that baby out and getting what she wanted. With a three-year-old in the house. That's another thing. That's another thing. Yeah. Reagan's three-year-old daughter was in the house when this took place and, um- They said that her dad tried to go and get the three-year-old, Reagan's dad. Mm-hmm. But that he would've had to step over the body to get to her, and he couldn't bring himself to do it, so a friend of the family had to go, and that she was hiding at the back of her room. And it came out later, I think either... It was either in the trial or she might, Taylor might have told one of her cellmates in prison, it, it's one or the other, um, that the three-year-old did come out of her room when she heard all of the ruckus. And Taylor said to this three-year-old, "Say goodbye to your mommy." I mean, that's evil. That's a demon. I cannot even believe it. Definitely somebody that shouldn't have children. She shouldn't have a pet fish. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Demons walk among us, y'all. But they don't have horns and a tail. They look just like you and me. Mm-hmm. So yeah, the the premeditation of it all, let's talk about that. I mean, we've already discussed it, but let's just put it all together. She was watching videos on YouTube- Mm-hmm of how to do a C-section on very specifically a 36-week pregnant woman, and Reagan was 36 months pregnant. Mm-hmm. She set fire to that house. We all know she did it. Mm-hmm. She sent Wade off to this, on this- She called the bomb threat made-up hog transaction. She used a voice disguiser to call into the hospital for the bomb threat. Like- And that reminds me, like you're saying about in the moment stuff, because you think, why bother calling in a bomb threat or starting a fire? Because that only gives you another day's grace before you have to produce a baby. But like you said, she was in the moment. I don't have to worry about it today, 'cause I called in a bomb threat. Tomorrow's tomorrow. Yeah, I think that one of the reasons that she still has that MO is that she'd had it all her life, you know? Various friends and family were interviewed about her, and they said that basically she's always been like this. She's always wanted to do just about anything for attention and anything to get her way, and it kinda seems like nobody ever corrected her, but just kinda either indulged it or ignored it, because they didn't wanna deal with correcting her. So when you're a kid, maybe you're doing stupid shit like, "Oh, I stole a cookie out of the cookie jar. I'm eating too many cookies, and now I've gained five pounds." You know? But when you're an adult, well, now it's turned into, "I've murdered two people, because I never learned what discipline or empathy is." Yeah But yeah, the bomb threat. When they said in that documentary that a bomb threat had been called in, I immediately knew she did it. I- immediately. Wasn't it Wade's mom in the documentary that goes- Yeah, because you called it in Of course, yeah. Of course there was. That's exactly what I said. Yeah, because you called it in. Yeah. But I mean, the depravity, because it served her purpose of buying her another day, like you said. But think about all those people in the hospital, the employees and the patients that were impacted by this. She didn't care. And possibly even, say somebody's in the middle of surgery, and there's a bomb threat. You possibly put their life in danger. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But she doesn't have that kind of foresight. She doesn't care. Yeah. Um, so the, the 911 call from Reagan's mom, where she is just screaming, crying, sobbing beside herself, I mean, I'll never unhear that. Right. And obviously she'll never unsee her daughter's body. But I mean, that was just such a raw call and reaction to hear. I mean, I think it's how we would all react walking into that. Nobody should ever have to. Mm-mm. No, never. So what about her previous two children? She lost custody of both of them, right? Right. But she had- Or gave it up? She lost... I, I believe she lost custody of both, but she had visitation with her daughter. Because the daughter Wade said stayed with them in the house occasionally, but not full-time, so somebody else had permanent custody. I don't know if it was her mom, 'cause her mom ended up with permanent custody after she was incarcerated. So maybe her mom did and... But then her mom said, "If I go against her, she'll keep my granddaughter from me," which if she had full custody wouldn't have really even been possible. So I don't know. There's some confusion there. But her ex-husband definitely had, full custody of her son. Well, I hope that both of those children are stable now because, I mean, what they've been through, let's not discount the impact that this has had on them, and probably will forever. Like, they're forever known as the two kids with the mom that did that. I mean- Yeah you don't get rid of that stamp And they've obviously been juggled from one home to another, which just creates all kinds of problems but I think ultimately the silver lining here is that she was not permitted to raise them from before this even happened, because she's obviously not a fit person to raise a child. And so therefore, whatever happened in her past that caused her to lose custody of them is the best thing that probably could have happened to those children. Yeah, I agree. That's one of those situations where it obviously happened for a reason. It ended up being for the best. What about her two-hour interview with the police where she doesn't ask about that baby once? Right. "Is my baby okay? Where is my baby?" Nothing. Yeah, like, like I'm saying, when they took a baby off in the ambulance and they're just chatting with her on the side of the road, and on the side of the road, she didn't have any kind of, like, concern. None. Zero. And another thing that really struck me when I was watching that interview, and I did watch the whole interview, and the detective that was interviewing her was pressing her really hard. I mean, at first he's just like, "Oh, tell me what happened." But then eventually he's like, "Okay, cut the shit. We've examined you. We know that it's not possible that you had a baby. Tell me what happened. You know, if you've been having some issues, if you've been dealing with some depression, some anxiety, sometimes people do things that maybe they wouldn't necessarily do," blah, blah, blah. He's really pushing her with that. And she says at one point That her head had been hurting recently, and that she'd had a stroke in 2015. Which I don't think that was ever substantiated. I don't think she actually did have a stroke in 2015. But her wheels were turning, like, "Okay, they know I did this. What can I possibly say? Oh, I'll say that I had a stroke. I've been having headaches, and maybe I just blacked out and did it and I don't remember it at all." Well, it shifts the focus- Mm-hmm of the conversation, and then it puts sympathy back on her. So, I mean, she's very manipulative, and her brain doesn't think very fast logically. But it thinks very fast protect- right protectively. Right. Protectively to, to protect herself. You're exactly right. Very defensively. But didn't that whole interview feel like Jacqueline Hynd? Like, she bounced between two different personalities like it was a tennis match. Yeah, it went from her just being sweeter than sugar and trying to say, "Poor me. Oh, I'm the victim. Oh, I have headaches. I had a stroke," to, "I didn't do anything. I don't know what you're talking about," and very aggressive. Um, but another thing that I noticed is that when that doctor came in to do a physical examination on her, he asked her, "How many children have you had?" And she said, "Two." So if she'd had a baby that day, her answer would've been three. So I think that the- At first as well, when he first goes in there, doesn't she refuse? She refuses it. She refuses the exam. Mm-hmm. And I thought they were gonna have to get some kind of court order or something, but I think they took her blood, telling her that they needed it for whatever, and they were able to tell if the pregnancy hormones in there, right? So she refused the vaginal exam at first, but the vaginal exam would only tell them if she'd recently given birth, right? Right. Whereas the hormones in the blood and everything would tell them if she was recently pregnant. Yeah, they did a blood and a urine analysis. Right. And they both confirmed that she had not been pregnant- Right recently, period. Mm-hmm. 100%. So. Well, it was impossible. Mm-mm. It was not possible. So what about the doctor that puts out the, um, warning to the hospitals, but I don't think he could've done any more? I think that he honestly went above and beyond within his capability. Exactly, yeah. I mean, I think you definitely have some doctors out there that would've just washed their hands of it and said, "Well, there's nothing I can do, and it is what it is," and gone on about their lives. But you could tell that both him and his, office manager were very distressed about the fact that they knew that she couldn't be pregnant, but they couldn't say anything. I mean, they definitely had a conscience. And they had a sense that something bad- Could happen. They'd- was coming they'd dealt with this crazy-ass bitch already. Right. Right. And what about the crime scene? And I don't wanna, like, harp on the crime scene. I don't really care to discuss gruesome details, because that's not the purpose of our podcast. But, like, it is important that we know what Reagan went through, and the crime scene was just apparently a horrific crime scene. I mean, there was blood everywhere, on the couch, on the walls, on the floor. And most disturbingly, there was a bloody handprint on the fridge right below the ultrasound of that baby. Mm. And that is one of the most chilling details of any case I have ever covered. That's the kind of editing they put in a horror movie to give you chills. Right. That really happened. Right. Yeah, right out of a horror... And what about, like, her friends who... I mean, even from childhood, she always wanted attention. Something was a- oh, she's faking a sickness, faking an injury. Um, I meant heiress to, first it was oil. She was an oil heiress. Yeah, and then it turned- And then it was a Sarah heiress. Yeah. And I, I've known people like that, and it... And I'm not a professional, I cannot diagnose anybody, but there's something called histrionic personality disorder, that people will do anything, anything, cross any boundary, do anything for the attention that they want. And that perfectly describes her, in my opinion. Yeah. I mean, there is no line they will not cross, not even, I mean, murder. And here we are. Mm-hmm. And it's just unfortunate. Like, obviously her parents, uh, her mom at least, we don't know about her dad, um, her ex-husband and her childhood friends had all come around to realizing what kind of person she was. Mm-hmm. Whereas poor Wade and poor Reagan they meet this person and she seems great, and they have no clue, and these poor unsuspecting nice people that are trying to be nice to her end up in the bloodbath path because She needs to come with a warning sticker. Yeah. She definitely needs to come with a warning sticker, and I think most people have been in a situation where if somebody comes at you like 100 miles an hour right out the gate and they're the eternal victim, like you just meet somebody and, "Oh, my mom is a piece of shit and she just put a hit out on me, and my dad's a piece of shit. Oh, and my best friend and my boyfriend were having an affair." I mean, if you meet somebody and with this- With that kind of drama with this level- They are the drama. They are the drama, and they will pull you into it, and you need to repel them. Yeah. Like word of warning, y'all, repel them. 'Cause think of it. In two months he had the inheritance drama. He had the moving in with him drama. He had the I'm gonna get it, I'm not gonna get it drama, my mom's taking it from me drama. He must have dealt with drama with her kids- Mm-hmm because she only had part custody of one that stayed with them. He's got drama with his family. I mean, how much drama can you take in two months before you're like, "What just happened to my life? Like two months ago I was happily working on my farm, and now this whirlwind comes in that I don't know how to deal with, and in two months' time more's happened than it has in my entire life." Exactly, and that just goes to show you one person can turn your life completely upside down. Your entire family. Mm-hmm. I mean, there she is at the Christmas party being the center of attention with all of her lies and way out there crazy stories. I'm sorry, but that is just so tacky and inappropriate. Like, if it's Christmas Eve and I'm trying to celebrate Christmas with my family and you come in with a fucking PowerPoint presentation about this $3 million property that you're gonna buy, like can I just watch my kid open his toy truck? Right. I can't even imagine. Yeah. Where are your kids on Christmas? There you go. Yeah. Where are your kids, Taylor? Yeah. Mm. What are they opening? Mm-hmm it seemed like a presentation to impress. Mm-hmm. Everybody love me. Look what I'm about to do for Wade and your family. Exactly. I'm gonna swoop in here and with all this money and buy this dream property, and look at me, love me. Yeah, exactly She craves that validation and that attention and that adoration. Praise, yeah. Yeah. Oh, thank you, Taylor. Welcome to the family. I mean, that stems from, really low self-worth, and it sucks that her family, her parents never got her any professional help to deal with that because obviously this had been a problem from childhood. Well, I mean, we don't hear what happened with her dad or if her mom was a single mom, but I think you do have to wonder what her younger childhood was like. Because we have reports from her friends of what she was like, say, in high school. Mm-hmm. But there has to have been issues that either she had from birth, if it was a mental illness maybe- Mm-hmm uh, that she had from birth or that are as a result of, was it nature versus nurture? Mm-hmm. You know, what happened in those early years? What kind of childhood did she have that didn't help whatever mental issues she had and just blew up like a firework? Yeah, I do think that she was mentally ill. Don't get me wrong. I think that she had a lot of problems. But to take it that far, I do think that you just have to be evil. I really do. Yeah. Because it's one thing to lie about buying a piece of property or lie about buying a car. I mean, those are big lies, don't get me wrong, but that's very different than committing two murders. Well, cutting a baby out of somebody heavily pregnant- Mm-hmm there's no empathy. Like, there's no soul there. There, you're not a human Yeah. I think it's gotta be a combination of being born with mental issues and maybe having a traumatic or unnurtured early, early childhood. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. The fact that there's issues between her and her mom, which could solely be due to the fact that she's such a psycho, but could also be due to the fact that family life was never smooth. Yeah, I tend to believe just based on her behavior that there's definitely something there in the childhood that contributed, for sure. And the way that she treated her own children, because usually that's very relevant. And how her mother was always the scapegoat for everything. Exactly. There's, there's some kind of resentment there. Mm-hmm. All right. You have anything else that's all I have on Taylor Parker. We can put her to rest. Somebody needs to. Well, she's on death row, so. Yeah, true, true that. She'll probably never get- Probably not executed though, to be fair. Yeah. She can just sit there and waste taxpayers' money. Mm-hmm. Well, she's already stirring up all kinds of drama in jail. Um- Oh, shocker. Right, I know, shocker. She's, like, having an affair with, one of the guards and, she's having- Probably because she's trying to manipulate them to get out, and it'll be another one of these escape from d- Demara or what is that? But she, she's at the doctor's office constantly. Constantly. Of course she is has something wrong with her. Of course she is. But yet she has specific days- Is she pregnant again? Oh my God. She apparently has specific days that she wants to go to the doctor. Like, she'll be so violently ill, but then she'll be like, "Oh, no. I don't wanna go today. I wanna go specifically on Thursday when the guard that I'm fucking is here." That's a whole nother corrupt system. Mm-hmm. Anyway, I think that we have talked enough about this scumbag sicko. Yeah, she's been given enough time. So yeah, we will see you guys next week again with something or another, who knows. And, um- Something good something good. All we can tell you is it'll be something good. You'll like it. I think actually... my next one will be Daisy de la O. My next one is Shanquella Robinson. So we do know what we have coming up. We're just not sure of the- The order the order. All right, guys. Thanks for hanging out with us. We love you subscribers. And until then, mi divas. Not deadly. Bye. Bye.